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Senas 2007-04-19, 23:15   #1
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USB kabelis neveikia su MX-12

Turiu Ned'o gamybos USB laida. Su senaja MC-12 kabelis veike puikiai. Dabar bandau jungti MX-12. Kitam laido gale yra mono kistukas kaip tai priklauso su MX-12. Kai kistuka ikisu i aparaturos DSC isejima, tai po pyptelejimo stulpeliai vaiksto tik kokia sekunde ar pusantros, o po to jokios reakcijos. Moduliacija nustatyta PPM. Kas cia per problema?
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Senas 2007-04-19, 23:18   #2
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Kokio senumo mx12?
Naujos kartos mx12 turi DSC jungtyje kitoki pinu isdestyma.
Truputi senesnese mx12 (isleistose pries 9-12 menesiu) yra standartine jungtis, katra veikia su mono kistuku. O naujesnese, yra kitaip ten.

Reiketu atsidaryti ir paimti signala pries DSC fiske.

P.S.: Naujose mx12 yra atskiri kontaktai simuliatoriui ir trenerio pajungimui. Graupneris siulo 4 kontaktu kistukus vietoj dvieju.
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Senas 2007-04-19, 23:24   #3
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Zinau viena - kad konkreciai sita pati aparatura puikiausiai veike su firminiu IKARUS'o USB laidu. Reiskia cia kazkas sitame laide negerai. Radau parasyta kad JR'ui reikia sukeisti + ir -. Pabandysiu perlituot dabar.
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Senas 2007-04-19, 23:34   #4
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Viskas ok. Pasirodo istikruju signalo laida reikejo lituot prie kistuko "mases", o minusini laida prie "galiuko"
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Senas 2007-04-20, 08:33   #5
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O tu mani jau išgazdinai. Beje aš taip ir neprijungiau vienos MX12 prie savo laido. Dabar žinosiu kur šuo pakastas.
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Senas 2007-04-20, 09:54   #6
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Viskas ok. Pasirodo istikruju signalo laida reikejo lituot prie kistuko "mases", o minusini laida prie "galiuko"
Tai ir yra signalo invertavimas. Tik tiek kad biski iškreiptu būdu.
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Senas 2007-04-20, 10:58   #7
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O man visada atrodė, kad šis kabeliukas veikia su bet kokiu signalu. Nieko nereikia keisti jungiant tiek prie Graupnerio tiek prie Futabos ar Hiteko.
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Senas 2007-04-20, 12:15   #8
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Ir man taip pasirodė.
Įtariu, kažkur kitur šuo pakastas. Sukeitus laidus, signalas ne tik invertuojamas, bet pulso įtampa tampa neigiama.
Ned, o Vitalkos USB laide tranzistorius įėjime yra? Rezistoriu baze-kolektorius kokį dėjei? O bazė-iėjimas? Toks įspudis, kad aparatura "0" neištempia.
Vitalka, aišku, jei gerai veikia, tai galima ir nesukti galvos, bet budas tikrai iškreiptas. Kad tik neprisižaisti
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Senas 2007-04-20, 12:53   #9
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Manau čia esmė tame keturių kontaktų lizde. Kaip supratau signalas išduodamas ne į stekerio galą, bet į papildomą kontakta. Juris įkišus mono kirtuką su kažkuo užsitrumpina. Pajungus atvirkščiai gauname tipo kad į žtekerio korpusą paduotas signalas. O galas prijungtas prie kažkokio atramos taško.
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Senas 2007-04-20, 14:30   #10
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Visa tai ir man siek tiek keista. Visur raso kad tas pats kabelis veikia su JR/Futaba/Hitec aparaturom ir nereikia nieko keisti. O apie sita "modifikacija" parase Enas va cia:
http://www.modelis.eu/forumas/viewtopic.php?p=7534#7534

Tai gal jis ka daugiau zino apie tai.
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Senas 2007-04-20, 16:03   #11
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Pagal rcdesign.ru shema darytas kabeliukas veikia su visom radijom ir su paskutine V3 versija kuo puikiausiai.O del MC ir MX skirtumu tai gali but paprasciausiai sumaishytas + su -.As dedavau tranza su varzom ir nebudavo problemu nei su futaba nei su jr.Aplamai pas JR,Graupner viskas kaip pas zydelius,net pakrovejo jungtis inverted.
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Senas 2007-04-20, 16:41   #12
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Bachurelis: pas mane viskas pagal rcdesign.ru schema. Lygiai kaip pas tave.
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