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LastOneStanding
2008-03-10, 21:08
Beklaidziodamas po youtube, netycia uztikau keleta ydomiu filmuku, juos paziurejas istikruju, supratau, kad darydamas panasius triukus dariau daug klaidu, pasidalinsiu ir su jumis:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCJ2lKIGxRg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xzs8yJTraQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fj9j6z6Jl0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrDGvFbT4kE

P.S. Bet aisku kaip visda visi jau juos busite mate :lol: damit :x

weLNiuzas
2008-03-10, 21:46
Tokia jieega! Visi su 2 modu !! :)

Valius
2008-03-11, 08:20
Šaunuolis LastOneStanding, tokie filmukai visiems pradedantiems 3D pravers! :thumbright: (kas turi 2 mode :P )

Vanagas
2008-03-11, 08:55
Labai reikėjo tokių filmukų !!!

weLNiuzas
2008-03-11, 09:27
Ir jus Vanagai jus antru modu ? :)

Valius
2008-03-11, 09:56
Ir jus Vanagai jus antru modu ?
Būti antru-anaiptol nereiškia nereiškia būti paskutiniu :)

aff
2008-03-11, 10:26
mazai naudos ish tu filmuku.Daugiausiai manau lietuvoje lektuvais skraido pirmu modu. :)

RemsiuX
2008-03-11, 10:27
Nors ir kitu modu skraidau, bet nieko naujo. Reiks youtubej pasiknaisoti gal sau ka rasiu :D

Vanagas
2008-03-11, 10:53
Ir jus Vanagai jus antru modu ? :)

Taip, antru. Įpratau, nebenoriu keisti.

Time
2008-03-11, 11:22
O kuo 1 geriau 2?

P.S pas mane 2 modas :)

Valius
2008-03-11, 11:29
O kuo 1 geriau 2?
Nesuk sau galvos!Tai galima aptarinėti po trečio bokalo... :P

Vanagas
2008-03-11, 11:40
O kuo 1 geriau 2? :)

Teoriškai kai kurias figūras geriau daryti su 1, nors 99 proc. lemia rankų miklumas - kaip įsitikinau iš videoklipo.

Kalitriss
2008-03-11, 12:01
Is tikru paziurejus siuos video pamatai kad kaika atlieki nevisiskai "svariai" ir tikslei.

Tokiu video reiketu dar daugiau.

Epkencijus
2008-03-11, 13:42
mode 1 ar mode 2 tai tikrai nepriklauso kaip gerai bus atlikta figura. Tiesiog su mode 1 yra lengviau atlikti keleta figuru, bet tai nereiskia, kad zmogus valdantis su mode 2 jas atliks prasciau. Kazkada galvojau kad nyksciais valdyti yra sunkiau, gaunama maziau tikslumo, bet kiek video klipu paziurejau - jokio skirtumo, tiesiog ypratimas ir ranku miklumas viska lemia. As mode 2 skraidau.

P.s. RemsiuX`ai, koks skirtumas ar mode 1 ar mode 2 video klipe valdo. Taigi pas tave tik renkos kitaip judes. Juk sako: "Uzlenkiame elevatoriu, biski alieronu, ir padedam truputeli su gazais ir t.t." Tai ir daryk taip kaip sako. Darot problema is nieko. Paprasta kaip 2x2.

LastOneStanding
2008-03-11, 14:13
Mode 1 - gazas desineje? O mode2 tai kaireje gazas?taip? ar atvirksciai?

Musė
2008-03-11, 14:18
Mode 1 - gazas desineje? O mode2 tai kaireje gazas?taip? ar atvirksciai?
jo Mode 1 - gazas desineje Mode2 kaireje.

ReM
2008-03-11, 15:16
Realiai jokio skirtumo mode1 ar mode2. Tik mode2 yra logiškesnis, ir paleidžiant lėktuvą iš rankos, nereikia gazo su dantim reguliuot. :)

Time
2008-03-11, 16:39
O sakykim gal mode 1 kairiarankiam geriau?

henkel
2008-03-11, 16:40
Kuom? Kaip kam patogiau, taip ir skraido..

evvaldis
2008-03-11, 18:23
prie ko cia kairiarankiai ir mode 1? pats skraidau su mode 2 ir viskas labai puiku...kaip iprasi taip skraidysi..tas skirtumas tarp moode1,2,3,4 manau nykstamai mazas, svarbu praktika ir individualaus zmogaus gabumai/mokymosi greitis.

Ai nu siaip su mode 2 uztenka vienos rankos kad suvaldyt lektuva...

LederHoze
2008-03-11, 19:20
O su mode 1 viena ranka gali valdyt kabanti lektuva, o su antra - ji paimti i ranka :).

LastOneStanding
2008-03-11, 19:29
Beprasmiskas gincas.ar mode1 ar mode2 jokio skirtumo nematau, su kuo pradesi, tas ir bus geriau.. :wink:

weLNiuzas
2008-03-11, 20:10
O is manes visi juokesi pries metus.Sako 2 modu nieks neskraido, tik tu cia vienas toks "isskirtinis".O ziurek visai daug jusu cia su 2 modu :)

marekas
2008-03-11, 20:43
kadais situos fintus ir be youtubes teko atkalt:) su mode 1 viskas paprasciau ir greiciau!

LastOneStanding
2008-03-11, 21:08
Bet istikro pagalvojus, teisingai marekai tu sakai, laikyti gaza, ir sukti posukio vaira manau butu lengviau su desine ranka :wink:

henkel
2008-03-11, 21:12
Bet istikro pagalvojus, teisingai marekai tu sakai, laikyti gaza, ir sukti posukio vaira manau butu lengviau su desine ranka :wink:
Mode1 desinej gazas su eleronais, ne posukio vairu!

evvaldis
2008-03-11, 21:31
Jo, mode1 tai nera tik rankos vietom sukeistos lyginant su mode2, sukeistos rankos yra mode3...
Manau nevienam pravartu dar karta paziureti sita (http://www.rc-airplane-world.com/rc-transmitter-modes.html)

LederHoze
2008-03-11, 22:03
Apie tai, kad mode 2 geriau uz mode 1, nors pats su mode 1 skraidau.
I feel safe from any lynching parties up here on my mountain so I am going to launch into one of the most controversial subjects in radio control, the mode 1 / mode 2 argument. Really it is not an argument at all. The control of an aircraft in flight requires control over the three axes of rotation of the aircraft, which are the longitudinal axis (roll), the transverse axis (pitch) and the normal axis (yaw). Due to the design of an aircraft and its inherent stability (static and/or dynamic), it is only necessary to have uninterrupted control over the pitch and roll axes. The yaw control is used primarily to balance the secondary effects of the other controls except during some specialized aerobatic manoeuvres.

Fundamental rule No. 1. If you do not have complete control over the pitch and roll axes then you are not in control of the flight path of the airplane.

If you had nothing else to do except fly the airplane then mode 1 would be ok. Real flying however, requires the manipulation of other controls such as trims and switches. With a mode 1 transmitter this requires relinquishing at least one of the primary control axes, or at the very best having only limited control over it. With a mode 2 transmitter, the left hand is always free to roam and operate the less important controls while the right hand maintains full control over the pitch and roll axes.

There are many arguments against mode 2 some of which I will address here. In my experience it is only mode 1 flyers who make issue of the mode debate, somehow attempting to justify the inefficient means by which they control their aircraft. Mode 2 flyers just seem to get on with flying.

Argument 1.

The human hand is not designed to pull a stick straight back without introducing some sideways movement. True. JR's solution was to produce gimbals which could be rotated so the fore and aft stick motion was aligned with the direction of thumb movement and this solution worked well. A better solution is to look at the whole issue of controlling the sticks with the thumbs. What we are really doing is controlling a high speed aircraft with our thumbs and at the same time holding the transmitter, using the same hands which are providing the fine control. This simply does not make any sense. The correct solution is to support the transmitter from some other part of the body, say in a tray, and manipulate the sticks using the thumb and forefinger, preferable with long sticks. The problem of hand geometry is immediately eliminated. The stick is pushed forward with the thumb and pulled back with the forefinger and it is pushed or pulled from side to side using both thumb and forefinger. Fine, linear control with no mixing is easy to achieve with a little practice.

I suggest that it is about time radio flyers opened their eyes and looked around them at the real world. The facts speak for themselves. Almost all of the top flyers in the world today fly mode 2 with long sticks and a transmitter tray. The reason we are trapped in the mode 1 camp is purely a result of commercial pressures and greed. In the old days when nobody could afford a radio with more than 2 channels mode 1 was all there was. Naturally, two channels, two sticks. The dealers pushed the radios on modellers and into the training systems in the clubs, then they pushed more sophisticated radios which of course had to be mode 1 because that's what their client base had been trained on. Unfortunately, the dealers continue to push the myths about the mode debate in order to maintain continued sales of radios.

Argument 2.

The brain cannot control two functions accurately together on the one stick. Don't laugh, this is a serious argument and I here it almost every time the mode debate is raised. Excuse me while I pick myself up from the floor, ha ha. Who are these people trying to kid. From a physiological perspective, the brain is actually more capable of controlling two functions on one stick because the functions are not independent, rather they are very closely inter-related. The major control processing burden therefore falls to only one hemisphere of the brain and the left/right internal communications pathways are not needed. I am not about to labour this issue and the reader can find much information from the large number of reference texts available. Suffice to say modern fighters do NOT have two sticks, one for pitch and one for roll.

pvilkas
2008-03-11, 22:29
LastOneStanding - :thumbleft: klipukai.
O eilinį Mode1 vs Mode2 fleimą siūlau kelti naujoje religinėje temoje :lol:

aff
2008-03-11, 22:30
butu faina paziuret tokius fintus pirmam modui.o tai sunku treniruotis neikertant kas kaip :cry:
jau ikirtau suktis palei zeme-irgi idomi kombinacija eina pirmam modui.

marekas
2008-03-11, 22:56
Tai kad palei zeme suktis cia nieka nera su 1 modu,va tu ismok backu kilpa tiesia arba backu 8 biski smagiau :wink:

aff
2008-03-11, 23:19
Tai kad palei zeme suktis cia nieka nera su 1 modu,va tu ismok backu kilpa tiesia arba backu 8 biski smagiau :wink:
jei tau nieko nera-parodyk kombinacija kad toks shustras.
Kur cia lygintis su tavim.visi moka gi palei zeme su realiais modeliais sukti.Tik as vienas nemoku.

bernardas2
2008-03-12, 08:23
va "kombinacija" pagal Pauzuoli: http://www.pauzuolis-rc.com/stories/learn-to-fly/
mokykites. :D

Time
2008-03-12, 10:18
Sako nera skirtumo, bet jei esi kairiarankis tai is rankos lektuva patogiau is kaires paleist, pultas desinei, jei mode 1 tada gaza lengviau duot. Pats ne kairiarankis tai nezinau, bet manau teisinga linkme sneku :)

evvaldis
2008-03-12, 12:27
Nu ir vel tu apie kairiarankius.....tai gi jau parasiau kad kairiarankiai puikiai draugauja su mode2...pats gi kairiarankis esu, ir nekyla jokiu problemu...

Almantas
2008-03-12, 12:30
Aš irgi kairiarankis ir puikiai valdau su mode 2.

aleksasm
2008-03-12, 14:24
Geri klipai,atsiunciau sau i kompa nes man mokytis ir dar karta mokytis :wink:

andrius945945
2008-03-12, 15:16
mode1 ar mode2 :?: abu jie greri kas kaip pripranta tas tam taip geriau manau cia kaip kam :D

marekas
2008-03-12, 18:48
Nu siaip rimtai palei zeme suktis backom nelabai sudetinga,tik reik pagaut momenta ir viskas :D

TechnoLogic
2008-03-12, 19:20
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fJXAoio2TI Smagus video.
Siaip man labiau pritruksta ideju, nei kad butu dar ka mokintis skraidyti, kokias naujas figuras. Zinoma niekad nesistengiu ju daryti tobulai.

ps. Fainiausia backas su kryziuku daryti pries veja, priskrendi salia saves ir sukiesi vietoj. Ant 1modo su kairiu nyksciu suki ratu, o desine uzlauzi eleronus ir gaza reguliuoji :)

dangujegerai
2008-03-12, 19:47
ps. Fainiausia backas su kryziuku daryti pries veja, priskrendi salia saves ir sukiesi vietoj. Ant 1modo su kairiu nyksciu suki ratu, o desine uzlauzi eleronus ir gaza reguliuoji :)

Mano nuomone , tai pats didziausias 1 modo privalumas, daugiau tai viskas nuo piloto priklauso.

RemsiuX
2008-03-12, 20:04
Video tikrai smagus. Labai patiko :lol: . Net nesugalvociau tokiu dalyku su modeliu daryti.

Ned
2008-03-12, 20:35
Kažkada buvau prisisiuntęs keletą panašaus tipo filmukų. Gal kam įdomu bus:
http://www.ned.lt/foto/Ned/Shool/

Rimas
2008-03-12, 23:56
http://www.3dhobbyshop.com/HowToFly3DVids.htm